Ok bluedragoongal, it's just that my computer acts up sometimes and makes 2 or 3 copies, lol. Anyway, yeah, i'm REALLY GETTING SICK OF TWILIGHT! Hollywood News talks about it soo much as if it's the greatest thing that every happened to the world ... uh no it's not.. and the 2nd movie NEW MOON is coming this year November 20, 2009. Good thing HP isn't all the way by then, lol

WHY? This movie is gonna suck for sure.

First off, I think that HBP will be epic no matter what the MPAA says. Second, I do like Twilight somewhat, but Harry Potter is superior in every aspect. Third, Daniel Radcliffe is the perfect Harry. (Also, I've met him, and he's the nicest person I've ever met in my life. He's also the sexiest.) No matter the rating, I watch the HP movies (except the 4th, I hate that movie SO MUCH) for Dan, Emma, Rupert, Alan Rickman, and the fact that it's HARRY FREAKING POTTER. So don't get your wands in a knot over this, it's not like J.K. Rowling died or something!!!!

OotP wasn't emotional at all, to be honest. Everything was so rushed that you couldn't focus on one emotion for a few minutes. Harry looked upset about Sirius dying but they don't show it as much. They didn't show his anger or anything. And, yes, maybe the characters are listening to rock, but just out of nowhere? And if we compare OotP to the book, then I could rant for longer. :/ The movie captured the mood of the book, yes, but it was horrible in comparison to it. Honestly, I don't know how you could like OotP that much. :/ Like, ok, it was an ok movie, but out of the 5, it was the worst. HBP better be good. I hope he learned his mistakes from critics because OotP was the most poorly reviewed of all HP movies. You seem to like the critics, so why don't you head on over to Rotten Tomatoes and see what percentage is got in comparison to the previous 4. And you say Yates didn't want to make a blockbuster hit and an emotional movie? Well he failed, didn't he? OotP wasn't emotional at all. I was more sad about Cedric dying then Sirius, for goodness sakes. In GoF, they kept the 'Let's Remember Cedric' speech, which made you feel bad about his death. Nothing, NOTHING in OotP made you feel bad about Sirius' death. Out of all the things to cut, they cut out Harry flipping out because of Sirius' death !? And he expects the movie to be an emotional film ?

First off, I think that HBP will be epic no matter what the MPAA says. Second, I do like Twilight somewhat, but Harry Potter is superior in every aspect. Third, Daniel Radcliffe is the perfect Harry. (Also, I've met him, and he's the nicest person I've ever met in my life. He's also the sexiest.) No matter the rating, I watch the HP movies (except the 4th, I hate that movie SO MUCH) for Dan, Emma, Rupert, Alan Rickman, and the fact that it's HARRY FREAKING POTTER. So don't get your wands in a knot over this, it's not like J.K. Rowling died or something!!!!

Glad you got the release date phoenixknighter. on November 20th I'm going to lock myself into my room with nothing but my Harry Potter collection( books and movies), candy, soda, and popcorn. Then I'll gloat the next day when New Moon ( already feeling urge to retch) totally TANKS !!!!!!!!!! New Moons was SOOOO sappy, I mean come on, your stupid boyfriend dumped you, then left the country, then came back thought he saw you commit sucide (wish she had), goes to get himself killed you panic and save him, and in the end he takes you back and you live happily ever after. How much more sappy, puke-y, gag-ish, twisted love story can you get. If I were Edward I would have left her in the Voultori's hand (don't care if I didn't type that right), and gone back to living my calm un-life. ( I obviously have no life this is like my 10th response thing )

chommy , I don't CARE what the critics think, i only care about two things: What I think and what the AUTHOR WHO MADE IT thinks... who cares what other people think of her work. Like not all people liked that book anyway. So let's brainstorm through the movies.. the first 2 sucked! SS is like a classic, but COS was HORRIBLE and the worst HP film to date, because there was NO character development and it was SOO faithful to the book, it was a bore.. First Harry does this, then he does that... No we're watching him talking to Aragog, oh no! He's fighting the Basilisk now. lol I felt embarrassed watching that film. and POA was the beginning of the shift for Potter, while the expressions and art was very good, the storytelling was awful.. Even I was confused, and my sister was asking me "What's going on" and i was like "Um, i don't know" and she was like "but you read the friken book!" That's the point! POA was nothing like the book. "DOuble, Double Toil and Trouble" WTF! JK Rowling never said ANYTHING about a choir in hogwarts, that was just lame! Anytime i hear people sing that song i go to hysterics, lol. Cuaron actually wanted to do worse to the film, until JKR had to stop him at some parts. And we still don't know who the hell made the Marauder's Map. GOF was very good to me, Mike Newell focused on the important parts and left out the unimportant like SPEW, but he lacked good transitioning, that was his only problem, and he didn't explain how Crouch escaped from Prison, since Ron said back in POA (a FLAWED movie) that "No one has ever escaped from Azkaban before". Now, OOTP, while not perfect, is CERTAINLY better than all the previous ones. There was nothing i found wrong with the movie except one thing.. The fight in the Death Chamber could've been a lil longer with Sirius Black fighting his cousin Bellatrix.. I hated how she just backstabbed him by throwing killing curse before he knew it! BTW JK Rowling said the Dementor in the beginning was her favorite scene!

First of all, why would I care what Jo's favourite scene was? xD That was random, anyways ... and PS was good. CoS, I think felt like a true sequel. I think the first movie was better, of course, but I do think it's very good. PoA is my least favourite after OotP. It became darker, and the good thing was that (unlike OotP) it didn't suddenly move another direction. It went SLIGHTLY into another direction. GoF is my second favourite, after PS. And Crouch never escape prison, really, like Sirius. And Ron said no one escaped Azkaban but Sirius because 1) Sirius IS the only one who escaped from Azkaban and 2) No one knew the truth about Barty Crouch and all that because we find out at the end of Goblet of Fire. OotP was super confusing. In the first 20 minutes, Harry's like already in detention. At the end of GoF, Cedric's speech was kept; good. In OotP, Harry's tantrum was cut; bad. And in HBP, Dumby's funeral is cut. He's cutting all the emotional things in the movies. How does he expect to make a good movie?

and ONE MORE THING then i'll stop my rant.. you call OOTP not emotional??? The Possession scene was the MOST riveting scene ever... for the FIRST time my parents who HATE Harry Potter and think it's evil were brought to TEARS and me too! Afterwards they told me that they never knew how human Harry is, and all that he's been through makes you feel for him.. Now my parents don't mind me watching and reading HP in their presence... can you believe that?!? That scene changes people.. hell it changed me! And that scene was better than the book version.

HOW??? I really don't understand how this can work, unless they have majorly changed things from the book. Which probably shouldn't surprise me.

Yeah about that funeral scene chommy, i think WB will put it in.. The reason why they delayed so long was because they wanted to get "everything right" sorta like what David Heyman said... because the test screening was ok and after that Yates said that the things ppl didn't like they were gonna cut, and the things they did like they kept, and the things they wanted to see they'll re-add them. So i'm POSITIVE DD's funeral will be there.

soo...PG?!?!?!?!!?!!? How in the world is that happening? i'm sitting here right now looking at the back of a LILO & STITCH film and it's rated PG. i don't think that they say "bloody hell" and theres no dark magic or death or somewhat intense things in that movie! whatever, maybe it's not as..scary?...as we all thought? NO IT HAS TO BE!

YAYAYAY! sorry, but i love the discussions in the comments! the die hard bookies vs the moderates vs the movie people vs someone who just happens to have a different view. ahhh i love it.... these fights/discussions are so much fewer now that we're post-book. My two cents that no one's gonna agree with- the first two movies were the best! all mediocre after that. hated PoA, OotP and GoF were meh. Waa... i think HBP's gonna bring down the avg. no one has to agree or tell me i'm wrong. :) or you can. i don't mind rants.

The possession scene in the book scared the crap out of me, I was like 10 when I read it so it makes sense because that was almost as creepy as Voldy's return. But the movie version. I can't watch correctly now, I watched it the first time alone and I was so creeped out it. Didn't Harry's eyes like change colors or something? My dad was actually impressed with how they played that, which is really saying something because my dad doesn't really understand why I'm so crazed about Harry Potter.

How disapointing. We need some normal teenage verbiage!!!! I want DH to be rated R xD.

FAIL MPAA, JUST FAIL. How can you possibly give one of the darkest (hopefully) Harry Potter movies a PG rating? Not enough inappropriate jokes? I know some people don't care and are going to see the movie regardless, but it is really messed up. I hope they change their mind like they did with GOF/ OOTP, because as the movies got PG 13 their sales got higher, if money is the issue. First the delay, and now this? Do they really want part of the fandom to form a mob or what?

hmmm... i think WB will announce that wasn't legit and it's actually PG-13. seriously, look at OOTP and GOF. HBP is (unless they SERIOUSLY screw it up) bound to be PG-13 too.

First off, I think that HBP will be epic no matter what the MPAA says. Second, I do like Twilight somewhat, but Harry Potter is superior in every aspect. Third, Daniel Radcliffe is the perfect Harry. (Also, I've met him, and he's the nicest person I've ever met in my life. He's also the sexiest.) No matter the rating, I watch the HP movies because they are EPIC. Well, all of them except the 4th, I hate that movie SO MUCH. I hated GoF for 3 reasons: all the girls were either wimps or perverts (especially Moaning Myrtle....), the script has some of the WORST lines EVER in any movie ("I love magic." - No duh, we know that already, Harry. "OMG, I killed Harry Potter!" - Neville being a complete idiot.), and EVERYONE'S HAIR WAS TOO EFFING LONG!!!!

Word bluedragoongal_442! Finally someone who agrees with me.. the Possession Scene PWND!

Phoenixknighter: OOTP pwned, period

i don't know... COS was my favorite film and SS was amazing but it was a bit boring... #4 was pg-13 and i thought it was completely terrible. however OOTp was also pg-13 and it was likewise amazing... so really a rating doesn't say anything

I heard from a friend that GOF and OOTP were originally given PG ratings then it changed to PG 13. Do you think that will be the case with HBP?

Really hope this isn't true. I really like the fact that the books progressively "age" and I can't imagine how you could avoid or remove this from the films. It's practically an underlying fact.

I just noticed this about six minutes ago. Many of the horror movies in my house ( many of which haveto do with zombies, blood, and gore) aren't rated above NC-17. Its weird because most of them scare the (to quote Ron) Bloody Hell out of me. But heres the weird part, our comidies, mainly Hot Fuzz and Shaun of the Dead have R-ratings. This is really weird because Shaun of the Dead deals with zombies and has one really gross scene where you actually see a guy getting ripped to bits( he was a jack-ass anyway( sorry for language)) and Hot Fuzz has crazy, deluded people, but they also have comedy. Now the horror movies were a lot scarier but had lower ratings. The people at the rating company must be on drugs or something because I really don't understand thier rating procedures. This does give me hope for the movie though, hopefully the rate-people are just high again and didn't know what they were rating.

I rekon it should be rated at least M. But PG??? No way!

They better not cut Sectumsempra. That was my favourite chapter in HBP.

LOL That is funny. I thought it was gonna be rated R or something really extreme. So funny.

Heck yeah DeathlyH OOTP PWNED! ;)

Heck yeah DeathlyH OOTP PWNED! ;)

I think they see sexual humor and innuendos to be more offensive then plain out violence :/ I mean true there is making out in this movie, but its not like anyone is going around talking about raunchy subjects. I think thats why it was pg :/

"Posted by HPBESTEVER_clau_pink 1 day ago I hope this doesn't mean all the PG-13 stuff is out of the movie... because the book doesn't have so much PG - 13 dtuff ... but i hope it in't a like a little kids moviee... it doesn't bother me if the inferi dark mark bridge kissing and cursing aren't out... i think DH will be R... or ... PG-13... maybee. :) " First of all you're an idiot if you think WB would make a Harry Potter movie rated R. I am really surprised it got the PG rating... but OoTP was PG-13 and that sucked more than anything...except PoA...so maybe HBP will be decent.

You know what? MUGGLENET should have a poll saying which Harry Potter movie was the best/favorite? And I BET you Order of the Phoenix would Win! Followed my GOF, POA, SS, then COS

^well obviously, all the teenage fangirls would just pick the latest HP movie no matter what it is. phoenixknighter, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. OotP had some flaws, i agree that the interrogation scene with Snape was well done and frightening, as well as the scene in which Snape had to pretend he didnt understand harry in front of Umbridge. But yates made a few mistakes as well, such as skipping major plots points, ie the majority of those who hadnt read the books would have had no idea what the prophecy was all about as this was poorly explained. Also DD vs Voldemort couldve been better/longer, the montages imo werent really needed...believe it or not PS/COS were probably the most book-loyal movies even tho they were somewhat childish

Twin_of_Ron - parents rate the movies, there are 10-13 members of the board who work for the classification and rating administration. They vote on the rating and majority wins. As I said before kids nowadays know and have seen more things then they need to. I don't think the movie would be "too mature" or anything for them. chommy and phoenixknighter - i enjoyed your conversation and i agree with you chommy, i think ootp was rushed as well.

Although I think that is should be PG-13, I just want the movie right now. They must have dulled stuff down a lot since I know when I was reading the book, I had it in my mind that it should be PG-13. Oh well....as long as its good and it stays true to the book.

dont_look_down, Does Phoenixknighter Sound like a girl to you? lol! For the record, I HATE FANGIRLS! THEY'RE SOOOOOO ANNOYING! I'm a colleague male FYI, lol

LOL mild sensuality. I don't remember any of that in the book.

phoenixknighter sounds like a fairy to me lol

All I know is that it's gonna be great no matter what, amirite?

haha jhh7487, that's funny. My username use to be phoenixknight, then it got changed to phoenix_knight and now it's phoenixknighter ;) Oh and as for the mild sensuality, it means the romance and snogging and stuff.. it makes alot of sense. Sensuality is the clean version of Sexuality, CLEARLY HBP doesn't have Sexuality, but Sensuality, because the teenage romance is still sexual in a way, but is more sensual since it's not explicit.

lol phoenixknighter, i wasnt implying ur username sounds like a fangirl, i was just saying that the majority of the fangirls would vote ootp as it is the 'latest and greatest' and freshest in their minds. Not stereotyping here just stating the truth. And im not suggesting ootp was a bad movie either, i liked it overall (heck im on a hp site)

oh, ok, lol.

Why is everyone here acting like they're professionals for the MPAA system? None of us know how it works. You'd be surprised what little things probably made GoF and OotP PG-13. Most likely not what we all think. And I bet when you're watching the movie, you'll all completely forget it's PG, and then realise how little it matters.

Why is everyone here acting like they're professionals for the MPAA system? None of us know how it works. You'd be surprised what little things probably made GoF and OotP PG-13. Most likely not what we all think. And I bet when you're watching the movie, you'll all completely forget it's PG, and then realise how little it matters.

Its R or nothin' baby!

Wow. Considering all the violent/scary things in the movie (dead reanimated corpses, sectumsempra curse, an old man getting killed and thrown off of a tower, the necklace nearly killing Katie, scanning the obituaries to see if anyone died...) how can this get a PG rating?!? Not to mention the scene where Dumbledore has to drink the potion, and it's torturing him and he's yelling "KILL ME" at Harry?!? If they toned down any of that, then I'm not going to be pleased at all.

I'm more worried that it may have only earned a PG rating...

Okay, This is extremely weird. If it is only a PG rating, then it will most likely not match the book. But, when have the movie ever matched the book? If they can make the battle, the lake, and dumbledore dying all PG rated, then there is a good chance that the movie was not worth waiting 9 MORE MONTHS for! PG? seriously? ARRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGG. LAME! sorry, I know am being rude, but I am frusterated!!!!

i agree with harrypotteraddict how could this NOT be PG-13?

i was thinking--there are still quite a few months left until the film...so perhaps this isnt the final rating because it is pretty early in advance and last time when we were expecting HBP on a date decided early it changed. Maybe the same is true about the rating--it might go up in May and become PG-13. I'm seeing it regardless and i think 99.9% of you will too. If not, then maybe there is A LOT of humor and comedy, and that overrides the darkness so that may be the reason it got a PG rating?