Harry Potter owns all... But why are all you guys making such a big deal about it beating the bible, not everyone believes in that, some people don't believe in god and some follow other religions. The bible, as important as it may be just cannot appeal to everyone, and literature such as Harry Potter and Lord of the Ring can just be enjoyed by more people.

ROXTAR!!!!! im trippin you never told me what the UT was and im in it grrrrrrrrrr........... thats sad. oh well ILY.

lol alizzla... or what was it u wanted me to call u?? anyway... cood u just say ur SN agen letsdance... or sumthin......... hey susan if ur still there.........i'll try to sine on soon so we can stop this bogus 3MIN stuff!!!! ok i'm goin in! (to 3 mins) ;)

and oops srry.... UT is for Umbridge's Torture... i think u asked me wat nifflers were in that hole discussion about torturing umbridge, and then I formed the UT (like DA) lol

alizzla, UT is umbridge toruture lol it took me about an hour to figure it out. ya, roxtar im still here (drifting though). ya, we really need to get on im so the three minute thing can stop lol

well im guessing everyones gone, so bye roxtar, hope to talk to you again!!

its alizzle.....its all good. ohhhh ok UT i love it lol. yeah i remember me asking you that now o man good times. its LetsDance780 mkayyyy? thanks susan :]] thats was alot of help now im not totally out of it haha.......

I would DIE without harry potter and eragon...hey, this list is a great to read book list!

well susan if ur gone.... well luv ya!! hope to IM.... and alizzle.... we can tok, but i'll be out and in... im cleaning so ya... if we dont tok... nice to tok to you and see you guys on the platfrom!! i got the firewhisky all ready!!! yup... *sigh* the UT- me susan.... ginny...alizzle....nikki. ...sticky....... and Quiscala.........and dark nymph was kinda w/ it................ *sigh* good times.... but we';ve left our mark... as long as we remiain frends 4 ever... we will never be gone!! i'll always remember the UT!!!1 and i'll try to make that site!! lol ....UT>................ love ya!

roxtar, if your there, im back (sorta). ya, you really need to get that site up lol. then try to gather up the rest of us. XD

hey guys im back wait do you guys really want to make a UT site like on mugglenet that would so tight!!!!! we wont stop talking just keep posting new stuff each day and will keep in touch. and yes i will see all th other UT members on the platform ready to fly. and we can always take rons dads car haha with invisible power lol......anways.... you guys are awesome UT forever!!!!!! ILY forever!!!!

the bible is a book you can't live without it? don't make me laugh, that piece of trash, one of the best lie ever created. the thing is that lord of the ring and harry potter are fictions and sold in that idea. the bible is one of the only books which is a fiction sold like reality and people are stupid enough to believe it's true. if the bible was a fictional book, noone would be interested in it. you believe of all hp stuff? no, of course... then why do you all believe the nonsense things shown as "miracle" in that "sacred" book? seeing that stupid book in that top makes me sick, and to think we're in the 21th century... 2000 years of lies... 2000 years of mankind foolish enough to believe... perhaps their own existence is so bad they want to put the shame on someone else... someone they believe in, God... powerful being who never move is godly ass to help someone... oh perhaps because.... it's just in your minds guys.

OMG benmanu- keep that to yourself seriously. oh and if it is such a lie then why would so many people believe in it. where do you think the world came from wait let me guess are going to say evolution wow what a weak answer!!! and if you hate the bible so much dont bring it up.....thats so rediciouls how the bible is on there but you have to say all these crap about but when how to kill a mocking bird is on there nope not one word said but then again you say they are both fictional. you hate it that much you have to write a whole freakin paragraph wow LAME!!!! sorry to say. but thats just sad.

benmanu, if your not a chistian, fine, but please don't go bashing someone elses religion.

ben, i'de say tons of horrible thing about u that would make u cry, but since i dont wanta get banned i wont... BIBLE IS #1!! HP IS #2!!

ALSO IM HEADING TO BEAD NOW SO WATEVER TRASH U GOTA SAY ABOUT ME I DONT CARE =P also eragon should be up there!! and i think harry potter books are much better then lord of the rings! they bored me to sleep, thogh the movies were good!! LONG LIVE THE BIBLE AND HARRY POTTER :)

HARRY POTTER HERE I CAME!!!!!!!!!! I LOVE YOU HARRY AND DRACO!!! GOODNIGHT UT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow I've never posted on here before but I liked the list alot. Are people still debating about the Bible thing? I wish it would have been first but understand why its not, I mean the poll is taken at a time when Harry Potter hype is at its greatest right? Take another poll in two thousand years where will he be on the list compared to the Bible? Still I love the books and the Bible at the same time and am a little upset with all the debates and rude comments I've been reading from both Christians and Harry Potter fans. Just wanted to say that, and I wish Count of Monte Cristo had made the list, I'd probably put that way high up.

dougthewhale, the debating on the bible thing went down a while ago but it seems to be starting again...

ok it's 12:00 by me... going to the platform by way of my dreamcycle!!!! cant wait to see the UT!!! i got the firewhisky!!!!! luv ya'll!!1 UT 4EVER!!!!!!

lol this is ridiculous! i cnt believe we..... or I am still up now to talk to u and i don't even know if ur there!! lol its kinda sad rlly.....but AWESOME!! that we are still ready for this going to hogwarts thing!!! lol, well I g2g, don't want to miss u guys! ur prob not here b/c ur alredy there!!! this has bee SOOO fun!! the best bday ever!!! but i can tell u at the platform!!! and i will never 4get this!! keep postin so we can tok agen.... and never 4get .... the UT will ALWAYs live on...... i promise im gonna tell my kids about this one day... i'll never 4get u!!! all of u!!! GO UT!

oh and now i am rlly leavin to the platform.... just so ub no wen i joined this convo there were only 181 comments!!! now there are 372!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG!!! UT ROK ON!

Susan Bones thanks for the heads up, I kind of hoped that thing had died down.

Benmanu: As an atheist and agnostic, I'm ashamed of your comments. If you want to "show people the light," the proper way to do it is to calmly and courteously present the reasons for your stance. To hatefully deride people as you have done serves only to further convince them of the accuracy of the common conception that atheists are rude, spiteful, and bitter. By acting as you did, you're ruining the chances of Christians ever taking our position seriously.

Yeah it's cool that it did so well. Having it beat the bible is something, but I don't know, some people get more out of the religeon spiritually than by reading. Cheers

once, while reding da vinci's code, i came upon a dialogue where it says that Langdon's book could have rivaled the bestseller of all time...he asked: the bible? his editor replied: no, harry potter....this is amusing =) but it is sad that the bible is only top 5, and that the four books beat it in becoming the topmost book a person cant live without...call me a hypocrite or something (coz ive only read genesis and the 4 gospels), but i still believe that the bible should have been the first.

oh fasho

Aw come on, I need HP a lot more than Pride and Prejudice... ah well. That's hella awesome though! Yay!

This is just a result for the UK and IRL, not Europe or the whole world. Don´t forget that. The UK is NOT the Centre of the Earth!

It doesn´t beat the Bible worldwide just in UK . So what is your problem all of you guys who defend such a brainless list of some english books? This list represents not the ideas of the people in all over the world. It just shows us how low the level of cultural education in the UK must be, nothing else.

Siebensprung - German? And no, the U.S.A. being the one single first-world country with least people accepting science, evolution and cosmology and the most people of all first world countries believing that the bible is litterally true, I'm sure the bible tops pretty much everything in the U.S.A. Araminta, I have to agree mostly. But there's no need for us atheists to take bashing over bashing and keeping criticism to ourself - sure, it's about how you present it, but being not only an atheist, but also a man of science and a student of philosophy, let me present quote: "Celebrate and defend naturalism to its limits, respect those who see differently beyond the limits of foreseeable experiments, and don't let anyone get away with superstitions that intrude on the results of experimentally accessible questions. Unobtrusive superstitions, when held by others, are not trampled by polite, respectful people. That's the very heart of being respectful and polite." I think it's perfectly alright to point out logical fallacies, contradictions and impossibilities in religious belief. Something logically contradictory simply cannot be true... (to be continued)

Amen, MikeB 12. Have a worldwide power day, best regards. In genrel! The list is crap, absolutely not representative!!!!!!!!!! Check out the website, guys. 2000 people voted, ONLY 2000 people. I´m laughing sardonically at all of you who believe in fairytales and overestimate the HP place 4 on a pure commercial voting-website for the UK and Ireland. Awake all you self-loving HP fans who don´t want to see the reality. If 2000 people in UK and IRL voted for the HP books it doesn´t say anything! Well, I like the HP books, too. But I still live in the real world, not in illusions aroused by dreamers like some of you.

i_loverz_HP, you've just made it clear beyond the shadow of a doubt that you are just as hateful, ignorant and arrogant as benmanu, if not worse. Yes, science can explain how the universe, the world, life and even consciousness came to be (that's my field of studies btw). You obviously don't know a thing about evolution, sorry. Evolution does not explain how the world came to be, that's simple cosmology, physics. Evolution explains how life and the diversity of species came to be. And cognitive sciences, most prominently neuroscience attempt to explain how consciousness work. And without meaning to be rude, the thing is: Religion can't explain anything. Saying that something was a miracle or that a supernatural power created it is not an explanation, only an expression of our lack of knowledge. Go back one-thousand years and people would tell you that a lightning is a miracle, an expression of God's anger. Today we know that it's asymmetrical charge-states between ground and clouds leading to a discharge which is the flow of electrons. We can explain every micro-event in a lighning perfectly. That's what a real explanation is: A statement or set of statements linking phenomena to their causes and giving rules how the process happens. And when it comes to natural phenomena, an explanation must conform to the principle of being falsifyable if wrong. Life, the universe and earth are certainly empirical, therefor explanations as to how they came to be have to be scientific to be of any value. Now this is not bashing religion - if it makes people happy, let them have it, I don't object as long as it doesn't lead to violence or intolerance, I just won't let -as the above quote was meant to show- let superstition intrude on explanations to perfectly observable phenomena, since superstitions are not only of no value there, they hinder scientific progress and advance ignorance. Galileo, anyone?

HIS DARK MATERIALS FOR THE WINZ0RZ! *spazzes* Oh, oh... and HP too, of course. D: ..................LYRA FOR PREZ. Sorry. Goddamn I'm excited for the movie.

Everyone who is in the UT: we need somewhere else to talk other than the comment board! What do you guys suggest? Meh, and the time zone thing gets in the way too. :D

In response to the Bible being behind HP. It's been brought up before in this thread, but I thought as a British Athiest I should make the point again. Religion in the UK just doesn't have the same impact as it does in the US. I know of only a couple of people who go to church regularly, nearly all my friends are Agnostics. If I & my friends are any indication, thats why the Bible is so far down the list, as it just isn't relevant in our British lives. It would be interesting to see a US version of this list though. I've taken this info off the internet: The Institute for Social Research at the University of Michigan periodically conducts the World Values Survey. It polls a statistically valid sample of adults from a total of 60 nations. In their their 1995-1997 survey, the found that: 16% of the British adult population consider religion to be very important in their lives. 53% in the U.S., 14% in France, and 13% in Germany agreed.

godot - that's what I was saying a few posts ago, and to be honest - that's one reason why I like living in Germany, among (of course) the cultural treasures of all the great composers from Bach to Schönberg, all the great poets and writers from Goethe to Kafka and all the great Philosophers from Kant to Nietzsche to Habermas... anyway, nice name, wonderful play. So I take it everybody is always waiting for you but you never show up? :) P.S.: Did you know that there are more Harry Potter books per thousand people in Germany than in any other country? - I find this amusing, and uplifting of sorts.

Quiscalus....I'm back, I'm in the UT!! LOL! I think everyone else has gone to bed now!! Its 11.00am where i am! Ur right we need somewhere else for the UT to meet up and talk!

aaaaahhh IM BACK WWWOOOOOOOO THE UT IS BACK ON!!!!!!!!!!!!! its 11.09 here!!!!!!!!!

helloooo sticky, i'm guessing you live in Britain then?!!! YAY!!

maybe we should ask mugglenet to set up a messsage board or something for the UT...bit like one of the disscission things......*wonders* hhhmmmmm

Sticky, that would be a good idea. I'm glad some of the UT memebers are back! I'm gonna be drifting in and out.

yeah i live in britain..britain roks!!!!!!!!!!!!! YAY!!!!!!!

yeah that would be cool. I was reading all the other UT comments from last night....very good, but apparently I'm weird!!!!! Ah well, my cover is blown now....

Nikki_85..ure not weird..ure awsume...and i cant even spell!!!!!!!!! lol........im gonna be on for the next like...hour or more....i wonder how many posts that it????????

It's 2:30 where I'm at. What time is it in England?

I'll be on for a while too....though I should really call my mum soon....!!! Thanks sticky, i've been called many things before, but never awesome! LOL!!!!! We really are off the subject here aren't we? *giggles madly* So....Harry Potter......UT UT UT!!!!

its almost 11.30 here in england........cool....wh ere are u Quiscalus????? well. we can be off the subkect if we want...no one else is on at the moment posting comments here...so we might as well use this for the time being!!!!!!!!

Nikki, yeah we are sorta off subject! Just a tad bit. We need to find a place to talk, where nothing we say is off subject. Mwaha ha ha! Excuse me. I'm feeling really weird right now. Anyone have any more ideas for UT? I say we force her to watch stupid Disney sequels like Cinderella II: Dreams Come True!! Now THAT'S what I call UT! ;-)

he he he..s'allright Quiscalus..im feeling weird too....but more hyper weird......aaahhhh i love mugglenet...that a bit rndom but hey!!!!!!! im a random person!!!!!!!!!! goodmorning startshine...the earth says hello!!!!!